tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post6351838415556839335..comments2023-07-12T06:36:33.804-04:00Comments on All Bones About It: Song of Blades and Heroes: Bones Battle ReportChris Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-21041533457397328482015-07-09T19:48:55.029-04:002015-07-09T19:48:55.029-04:00Yes, we've since learned Leaders can be very b...Yes, we've since learned Leaders can be very beneficial, and usually try to use them now.Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-85392265856109387222015-07-09T17:45:40.082-04:002015-07-09T17:45:40.082-04:00One thing to consider is using a leader to issue g...One thing to consider is using a leader to issue group commands. While it can result in a group of models failing to activate, it guarantees they stay together and get their group bonus in melee. :)Adam Muddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18174173531511224981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-18548114942741198292014-01-19T07:26:11.164-05:002014-01-19T07:26:11.164-05:00Kobold arms race! :)Kobold arms race! :)Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-77401161357552791152014-01-19T07:01:04.950-05:002014-01-19T07:01:04.950-05:00I've got 6 already done...I've got 6 already done...Rob Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705547374834785174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-84578032085009918002014-01-18T13:07:26.962-05:002014-01-18T13:07:26.962-05:00Next time use the Medusa as a Leader and keep the ...Next time use the Medusa as a Leader and keep the guys bunched around her. Always go 2 on 1 and this should make the game more competitive. <br /><br />However, I would need to read the rules to see if there is not a balance problem with the game. However I have read too much posive reviews about it, so you probably need to figure out the trick of working with low quality troops. Jicihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04240236568186513105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-21062958753936842322014-01-17T16:14:55.912-05:002014-01-17T16:14:55.912-05:00Yes, we had figured out the Leader trait was a goo...Yes, we had figured out the Leader trait was a good thing, and in retrospect, having a figure with that trait in my undead warband probably would have helped. And you're very right about not letting your group get spread out; that is exactly what happened to my orcs. :(Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-63299525685018775542014-01-17T15:29:12.945-05:002014-01-17T15:29:12.945-05:00From what I can make up from the rules from the va...From what I can make up from the rules from the various reviews I saw (I do not own them) the presence of a good quality character with the Leader trait is the key if you got low quality troops. Also warband members should stay together or they will get pick out by better quality troops from the other side.Jicihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04240236568186513105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-66602641152982154232014-01-17T05:02:39.407-05:002014-01-17T05:02:39.407-05:00Thanks. Not sure when our next session will be, b...Thanks. Not sure when our next session will be, but I'll be sure to post a report. I see I'll need to add the Bones Kobolds to my painting queue. :)Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-28983328591075405992014-01-16T20:09:30.216-05:002014-01-16T20:09:30.216-05:00it seems like it is ideal for that low quality/hig...it seems like it is ideal for that low quality/high quantity warband. Kobolds are Q4/C2 with short move and gregarious specials with a cost of 15. If you did a goblin with Q4/C2 with just gregarious it's 20pts. So in theory you could really field quite a bunch in addition to a leader and a more elite unit or two. Good luck, can't wait for the next report.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06432332946593056871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-42348162513619681932014-01-16T18:10:03.074-05:002014-01-16T18:10:03.074-05:00Thanks for seeing the positive side of things. :) ...Thanks for seeing the positive side of things. :) <br />I'm hoping that it is not a design flaw of the rules, and we can find away to balance things out, because in general I really like the system. I've been considering getting the Sci-Fi version to use with the Sci-Fi Bones that came in the Kickstarter, but not until we can make the rules work. Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-78180237668708741912014-01-16T18:06:15.500-05:002014-01-16T18:06:15.500-05:00Cool. I hadn't read the Gregarious special ye...Cool. I hadn't read the Gregarious special yet, so I just did. Though my rule book doesn't have a profile list for Kobolds, but I see Ratmen, which are listed, do have that Special as well.Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-62149850905807311132014-01-16T17:57:25.072-05:002014-01-16T17:57:25.072-05:00Thanks for your kind remarks! And let me say welco...Thanks for your kind remarks! And let me say welcome to the world of Wargaming. I was once a newbie myself...back before "newbie" was a word. :)<br /> I agree that the Group Activation is something we need to try out. Also, I was aware of the warband builder but wanted to experiment with the example stats given in the rule book first, befor I went off and did my own. I like your idea of three ghosts, but currently I only have the one painted. :). That is one if my problems, since I'm limiting myself to only using the Bones I've painted, I am very limited in my warband construction.Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-28307051172583815222014-01-16T15:38:29.288-05:002014-01-16T15:38:29.288-05:00Well at least the games looked pretty with all of ...Well at least the games looked pretty with all of those lovely models painted on the table. I've played games of Mutants and Death Ray Guns (sci-fi SBH rules) and had similar results. My "wretched" horde against some terminator robots was decimated in short order, despite my huge advantage in numbers.Obsidian3Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03987358994076703659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-82057836979671891962014-01-16T14:21:56.580-05:002014-01-16T14:21:56.580-05:00oh-- i also was doing some reading, and the sugges...oh-- i also was doing some reading, and the suggestion of taking a leader AND many poor quality units with the gregarious special came up. This gives the +1 from the leader and +1 when activating as a group (which is why you need the leader as well) from gregarious. A warband with kobolds (if following the rule books) have that naturally built in.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06432332946593056871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-64777078232742190242014-01-16T12:38:24.619-05:002014-01-16T12:38:24.619-05:00again, really nice writeup, and I am very jealous ...again, really nice writeup, and I am very jealous of your mini's. I am a newbie to tabletop wargaming and SBH in general so take my suggestion with a grain of salt.<br /> <br />In the the warband with the ghost/spectre, it seems to me for it to be effective that you might need more ghosts with them group activated by a leader (both improving their quality and allowing for a success/fail as a group)... then move them base-to-base all together so that they essentially fight things envoking the multiple attackers rule. The rule is that the target is at a -1 on the attack roll for each additional attacker. Meaning if something has a C3, and you have 3 ghosts at his base, that model has -2 or a C1. Additionally, you can leverage their flying/free disengage to escape into wooded areas/areas with cover. This however depends on having a leader.<br /> <br />So the other thing is this, have you seen this site: http://www.ganeshagames.net/army_builders/SBHbuilderRevised-v1217.html<br /> <br />Lets you custom build your warband... which some may like or dislike. The reason I bring it up is that you could have a Q4/C2 Leader (not undead) for 38pts AND the 62pt Spectre =100pts in Personalities.... which is 1/3 of the warband. If you allow that sort of customization, you might find that paired with 3 or more ghosts to be effective. With 3 ghosts added the warband is at 196, which leaves room for maybe 1 or two more top end units. I have no idea if this would work in practice though :)<br /> <br />Anyway, I really enjoy your reports and the quality of the table/miniatures, so it got me thinking about how to strategically approach the issues you have seen. Like I said, I am very inexerpeicned, but I thought it might be a fun discussion. Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06432332946593056871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-79135086047400361822014-01-15T20:02:11.256-05:002014-01-15T20:02:11.256-05:00Yes, "ouch" is right. :). We had a simil...Yes, "ouch" is right. :). We had a similar experience to yours last time we played, with a very powerful Elf commander who ran roughshod over a group of orcs. We want to experiment more with the Group Move rules to see if they will help get these bad Quality troops moving better.Chris Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462437531658180209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4286868922178845340.post-50053030964581568332014-01-15T16:17:34.113-05:002014-01-15T16:17:34.113-05:00Ouch to those game reports. I've only played S...Ouch to those game reports. I've only played SOBH once so far with a mixed adventurer party vs loads of zombies and 2 vampires. Half the Zombies didn't move off there starting positions and 1 vampire proceeded to pretty much take out the all the adventurers!Simon Quinton https://www.blogger.com/profile/18001946192905517180noreply@blogger.com